Neil Dudley: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Pederson’s Farms podcast. We are so excited you’re here. We appreciate you joining us. And we look forward to sharing these conversations with thought leaders from our industry. They’re going to paint a picture from every perspective – consumer, customer, vendor, employee, and peer – that I think is going to be super valuable, and we’re really excited to share. So, thanks for tuning in. Remember don’t tune out, and grab life by the bacon.

Hello. I appreciate you coming here. I know your time is not free to you, so we want to add value. That is the purpose of the Pederson’s Farms Podcast, and we’re going to explain some more of that. But right now, I got to be honest, I’m selfish, I want everybody and their dog to come to KetoCon. So go to ketocon.org and use the promo code bacon for $50 off your three-day pass. If you’re in the area, if you just want to become a part of the keto community, please come to this. Now, the reason I say I’m selfish is Pederson’s will have a booth. We’re going to be serving bacon, sausage, ham. We want the opportunity to show our products to you. We’d love to give you a better understanding of what we do and how it tastes. I believe if you give our products a try, we’ve got a really good chance of you becoming a fan, an PNFer we call them. And that is partially why all five episodes this month are focused around KetoCon. I’m interviewing, we’re talking to, we’re having a conversation with people that will either be speaking at KetoCon, founded KetoCon, working the Pederson’s booth at KetoCon. So, I think it gives you a really good opportunity to see and understand and hear a little bit before you even have to buy the ticket of what value is going to be there. So, thank you so much for just giving us that opportunity. Again, we’ll put all this info in the show notes, but ketocon.org, use bacon in the promo code or discount code to get you $50 off your three-day ticket. I really appreciate Robin giving that to us, and I hope you use it. Now, my name’s Neil Dudley. I’m the VP of Business Development at Pederson’s Farms, and I host the podcast. I’ve been in the industry for 20 years now, maybe a little over, and I worked my way up from a QA tech position to the C-suite. I mean, I really only got in the business because my best friend since kindergarten was made president of Pederson’s and he said, hey, will you come to work for me? And I was like, sure, I think that’d be fun. So now, all these years later, we’re still doing it and we’re still having fun. And I think it’s a great time for me to share these conversations and access to thought leaders, business owners, entrepreneurs, people that are making the food you eat. They are totally a huge piece of where your food comes from. And these stories are what I believe you have the right to know, understand, and get to hear. So, thanks for listening. If you love it, tell somebody, share it on social media. We need the support. We need for people to hear the story, I need your help getting it out there. If you didn’t like it, feedback is always welcome. We need that. We want to make it better. We want to make it valuable to you. So, if you want to hear what KetoCon’s going to have to offer, keep listening. I promise these people will add value and give you insight into the keto diet, the keto lifestyle, and many other things, everything from carnivore diet to intermittent fasting, to eating nose to tail, to how you keep an event alive throughout a pandemic where it’s pretty much shut down for a couple of times, a couple of years. Anyways, keep listening. Let’s do this thing. Thank you so much. 

Hey everybody, it’s the Pederson’s Podcast. I hope you know that because if you didn’t, you’re doing something you really don’t understand. You’re now enjoying a podcast all about where your food comes from. And I’ve got a lady on the show today that I just appreciate so much because we had a last-minute cancellation, I put on Instagram, I think it was, hey, I need help, got the little gif pushing down on the red help button, and Tiffany answered the call. And I’m really excited to learn more about you, your story, and how that really feathers into KetoCon, the ketogenic diet, and all of your perspectives. And this is fun for me because we were even mentioning, we talked earlier before we got this logistically put together, how it’s weird we don’t know each other already. So, this is just going to be a fun exploration. Tell everybody a little bit, just quickly who you are, where you are, and how they can find out about you. 

Tiffany Davis: Oh, my goodness. All right, who am I? Well, I’m Tiffany Davis. I’m a wife and a mother and grandmother who just turned 50, which I know a lot of women don’t like to admit that, but I’m happier, healthier, and better than I’ve been at 50 than I was at 30. So, I think that’s something we should celebrate. And I’m hoping I got a little wiser too.

Neil Dudley: Well, and I think that’s so valuable. I hope you’re listening, people. I almost want to say yeehaw. Like feeling better at 50 than you did at 30, what a great truth to live. Who knows, you probably felt pretty good at 30 or at least in your mind. No?

Tiffany Davis: I didn’t, I didn’t. I was about 125 pounds heavier, just miserable in my own skin, and I really didn’t know why. So, I hit kind of a point where I thought, I’m going to be 45 years old, I’ve got to do something. It took me a couple more months to figure out what I wanted to do. And I ended up- and I always feel like this is such a secretive thing that we don’t talk about in the keto community, carnivore community, but I had a bariatric surgery. I have absolutely no regrets, not that I would tell everyone to do that, but that is how I started. And I had something called a vertical sleeve gastrectomy, so it just makes your stomach smaller. But I knew statistically that people that have that done, they don’t work on the head. It doesn’t matter how small the stomach is, you still eat Twinkies with a teeny tiny tummy. And I know some people that did that, and it didn’t work for them. So, I knew that I was going to go straight into keto. That’s something that I started investigating as I was leading up to that surgery and did that successfully for two years, actually just short of two years. And then I discovered Shawn Baker, the king of carnivore.  

Neil Dudley: Isn’t it so cool that- I mean, it’s really cool that he’s a guest in this month of guests for this podcast, and he has had a great impact, I would say in the world, but for sure in this community and for sure in people that are looking to feel better. Like meat is an option to solve that.

Tiffany Davis: Yeah, and that’s kind of where I started. January 2019, I just thought, well, I can do anything for a month. And turned out, I was really only pretty much doing carnivore before because the surgeon had said to me, hey, you need to prioritize meat or your hair’s going to fall out and you’re going to feel pretty sickly. Even if you do lose weight, you’re not going to feel great. Turns out, I feel amazing when I just eat meat. So yeah, here I am, three years later, little more than three years now. And I’m certified as a coach, and I help other people, and I love it. I love my life. I love what I eat. And the future seems bright. I’ve got to wear shades. 

Neil Dudley: Hey, I don’t know what you’d call that, kind of corny jokes are very welcome on the show. I love it. 

Tiffany Davis: Oh, good. I’m all about those puns. 

Neil Dudley: What would you say to somebody that is you before you realized you needed to make the change? Like you kind of help people. Do you bump into people that you see yourself in?

Tiffany Davis: I run into people a lot and I have a lot of people that will message me, and they’ll say, I just can’t, I can’t do it, I can’t do it. I said, well, what you’ve got to work on is your head first. If your head’s not in the game, it doesn’t matter what diet you’re on. It really doesn’t. And if you don’t make the thing you choose to do your lifestyle, if you think this is going to be like Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers, and you are just going to do it for a time and lose that weight, and then you’re going to go back to eating whatever, it’s not going to stick. It really has to be first a mindset change and a heart change, and then your body will follow through, whether you choose to do it the exact same way that I did or if you decide you’re going to go straight to carnivore, which I think is really- Had I really understood carnivore prior to weight loss surgery, I probably would have gone that route first. I don’t have regrets what I did, and I maintain what I’ve done for my life through carnivore. And I think carnivore and keto are just amazing options for your health, your wellbeing. But yeah, you have to- There’s nothing anyone could say to me before I was ready. And sadly, is hard for me to face that a lot with people I come in contact with. Until they’re really ready, there’s nothing that’s going to change them, honestly. It’s that deep. It shouldn’t be, but it is. 

Neil Dudley: Sure. And I think this community just constantly stays around like, look, you haven’t made the decision, but I’m going to be here when you do because I know it’s going to be great for you. I’m not going to judge you or shame you for not being there because I’ve been the same way. I could have made decisions for myself that would have been better sooner, but I wasn’t ready. So, I’m just going to kind of hang out here until you’re ready and then let’s hammer, let’s hammer down. 

Tiffany Davis: Yeah, absolutely. I let people know, hey, I’m here. I’m not going anywhere. When you’re ready, I’m a DM away.

Neil Dudley: Yeah, that’s right. Do you think being overweight and losing pounds or looking different in the mirror, like is that a real piece of it? Is that a piece that we don’t talk about? I kind of think, the I was fat or you’re fat or the world tells you you’re fat, and now then you’ve got some shame around that, is that actually okay as a motivator or is it terrible as a motivator?

Tiffany Davis: I would be a liar to say I didn’t want to look better in my jeans. I mean, that was a component of it. But the longer I go on with it, I realize it’s really about health and longevity. And when I am 80, I want to be able to pick something up off the floor and not be groaning. I mean, I know people my age that are doing that. But I don’t think calling yourself fat is ever a motivator or anyone else doing that. I don’t think most of us are motivated by negativity. Not really. Reality maybe, but I don’t- I mean, I try to tell people all the time, you really need to be positive about your- Don’t say I can’t, say I can. Or if you can’t change it that way, I’m on the road to getting this right. I really don’t think- I’m not that toxic positive person, like everything needs to be positive. I’m very realistic. I’m a pretty down to earth person. But I don’t think negativity is a good way to motivate. I’m rebellious by my nature, so if you tell me don’t do something, then that’s all I want to do. So, I came from a family where most of the people are thin, fit, healthy, at least into their forties. So, I kind of stood out. 

Neil Dudley: What do you think made that different for you? 

Tiffany Davis: My addiction of choice was different. I come from a long line of addiction, and so I was real determined not to be a drinker or a drug addict. And so, instead of dealing with behavior that causes addiction, I just chose a different one. It’s like I’ve been in church a long time, so I said, it’s Christian legal to be fat. It isn’t, but we won’t talk about that. 

Neil Dudley: I think God holds us to a standard of taking care of our body. 

Tiffany Davis: We are told that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. We’re also told that gluttony is a sin. So, it’s what I- they like to call it acceptable sin. But that is why, ultimately, I turned to food. It was not a healthy coping mechanism. Whether you have faith in God or faith in psychiatry or whatever, getting healthy in your head and your heart, that’s what really needs to happen so that you don’t turn to any kind of substance and put it in the wrong place. I’m not here to tell anyone you should never have a drink. That’s not my business. But if you’re using that to get through the end of your day, and people joke about it all the time, like I came home and after the kids went to bed, I had a bottle of wine. I’m like, oh, well, all right. But we all have to come to our own realization a little bit at a time and deal with those things. But that was the difference between what I was dealing with and what the rest of my family might’ve dealt with. But they were super supportive of me. They still are. They always make allowances for my family. When we come to any kind of gathering, they make sure there’s extra meat for us. I usually get assigned to bring brisket or some other kind of meat off the smoker to the potlucks. So, my family’s been really amazing. They’ve never once to tried to make me feel bad for the choices when I was heavy or after I lost weight. 

Neil Dudley: Do you happen to have a vegan or vegetarian in the family? 

Tiffany Davis: My sister-in-law is a vegetarian, and she makes great shredded beef for me, every time I come to her house. She is extremely supportive. 

Neil Dudley: I love that so much that you said that because we can get very diametrical is what I’m thinking, but I’m not sure that’s the right word. We just get- Yeah, or even just really polarized – vegetarian, vegan, carnivore. Here’s a great example of people that love each other, party together, have gatherings together, and they consider each other. This is actually probably the more real truth in this world, is that experience. 

Tiffany Davis: Yeah. And I buy her vegetarian burgers when she comes to my house. I don’t know how to cook them. So, she usually ends up having to barbecue them herself, so I don’t burn them to death. But she’s great. And I’ve talked to her a few times about getting back on a little bit of protein because I worry about her health, but she’s doing the best that she can. I think she’s a lot healthier than she was years ago, and that’s been through the way she eats. And who am I to tell her any different? 

Neil Dudley: I think for the listeners, I hope, I pray there are vegetarians and vegans listening to this conversation. I try to be attentive to those conversations that I don’t really think works for me, but I know there are people that will tell you getting meat out of their diet saved their life, same as you will tell them eating nothing but meat saved my life. It’s like, okay, cool, the two very opposite things, who says they can’t both be true?  

Tiffany Davis: And if we could learn to be respectful of each other in the sense of we are bio individuals and what works for one may not work for the other. And thankfully, I’m seeing a lot of this in the community that we’re in with carnivores who’ve decided, hey, I’ve decided I’m going to add in a little vegetable here and there because I just want to. There was a time where people would have come out of the woodwork to tell them what terrible carnivores they are. If you still eat 75 to 80% of your meals are meats, you’re still a carnivore. There’re wolves in the wild that will eat berries off bushes, and I dare you to tell a wolf he’s not a carnivore. So, I really think as long as you’re meat-based. I will eat pickles on an occasion. I feel no guilt about that. I eat mushrooms on an occasion. I feel no guilt about that. I just know my body can handle it. 

Neil Dudley: That’s right. You don’t feel repercussions for it because your body is happy with it. It’s not causing problems for your digestion. I think people just so miss how important their gut health is, their metabolic health. I wish vegan, vegetarian or vegan, either one, carnivore, keto, a million different lifestyles that are kind of emerging as really popular and valid, hey, they can all be great. I mean, we’re all just different people. We’ve got different genetics, different predisposition to addiction, all these kinds of things that really plays huge. 

Tiffany Davis: Yeah. And I think one of the center parts of why carnivore works for a lot of people is because they are not moderators. They can’t have a little of something. So, that is one of the things that I’ve really liked about what’s come out of this community is really understanding your mindset. Are you an abstainer or are you a moderator? There are some things I can moderate just fine, but for the most part, I’m an abstainer. I just can’t have a little of the things that I used to have because it’s just going to send me on a tailspin of doing all the wrong things and I’m just not interested. There is nothing that I miss enough that I would give up my health and how I feel and my moods. Everything that’s improved over the course of the last five years, I would not give that up for anything. And I’ll tell you what, movie popcorn still smells great to me. I haven’t had it in five years. I will not have it again in the other five years. But it still smells good. 

Neil Dudley: Yeah, I think I fall into that camp, I guess you could say, like I have to turn on a switch that just says I’m not touching that. And my father-in-law, like he could just break off a piece of cookie, eat it, and come back tomorrow and break off another piece and eat it. And I’m like, how do you do that?  

Tiffany Davis: I’ve never understood that, though I have a lot of admiration for it. 

Neil Dudley: Well, it’s just one- like they must battle some other thing that’s not as hard for us. We just don’t notice it. 

Tiffany Davis: Exactly. Exactly. 

Neil Dudley: And I was lucky, well, I use this excuse, I’m not even sure it’s a hundred percent true, but I don’t battle weight. Like the consequence of me eating poorly is not really very big because I either have a high metabolism, I’m just kind of- I stay thin. I work out. I kind of like that sweating and getting my heart rate up. So, I’m not the greatest example of a person that sticks with a carnivore or keto or any kind of diet because I just don’t do it well. I mean, people hear this podcast, or they’ll see me and they know I talk about this stuff all the time because I’m passionate about it. I love the people. But you’ll see me in the Mexican food restaurant hammering down on rice and refried beans and tortillas. And that immediately discredits me in some way because it’s obvious I don’t walk the walk.

Tiffany Davis: Well, here’s the thing, if we were all able to do that reasonably, that would be great. I don’t see there’s high nutrition value in rice and beans, but I mean, there are people that survived on rice and beans for a long time, because I mean, I remember my grandmother telling me stories of the Great Depression. She said, if we hadn’t had rice and beans, we would not have had anything. So I mean, there’s something to be said for all foods and if you’re able to maintain good health. Now skinny or not, it all comes down to what’s going on in the inside. 

Neil Dudley: You can be a skinny, unhealthy person. Like it’s not all about weight. It’s my- Well, the president of Pederson’s, he’s my best friend since kindergarten, we just have this great relationship. We’re like brothers, we just don’t have the same parents. And he said, well, I’m a skinny fat. He just means he’s skinny, but he’s soft. He’s not feeling super fit. That’s true. That made a lot of sense to me, the way he put that. I was like, yeah, that’s right. 

Tiffany Davis: I see that quite a bit actually. And I really do think it’s important to- Nutrition’s the base to everything as far as I’m concerned, but if you want to be healthy, we start losing muscle mass at about 35. So, if you don’t start lifting heavy things, and I don’t mean go out and start lifting 100 pound weights, but get some 5 pound weights, get some 10 pound weights, get some 20 pound weights, that’s my goal. Now I’m a big person by nature. I’m built like a linebacker. I have questioned that from the get-go. Well, I’m 5’9 now because apparently I’ve shrunk a little bit, but I am not skinny. But that’s not my goal. I want to look strong. I saw somebody say, I want someone to look at me and go, I bet she brings in all her groceries in one trip. I thought that was great. I want to be- I’m okay with being meaty as long as it’s muscle. I’m all right with that. We need to end the idea that all women or men should fit into this certain size category. Some of us are just not built to be skinny. Now, that’s not to say we were built to be fat either or overweight, but we just have different shapes, and we can embrace that, but we should all be trying to put on muscle. Because being frail is the number one reason people end up in the nursing home and boy how do you- I don’t care what size pants I wear near as much as I don’t want that to ever happen to me. 

Neil Dudley: That’s so true. And if you don’t understand what Tiffany’s talking about, visit the closest nursing home and just see. I try to go just because that’s such a lonely place, and there are beautiful stories and humans all over those campuses, I guess you could call them, or kind of nursing homes where somebody has just- 

Tiffany Davis: I actually worked in them when I was about 19. I lived in a little one-horse town called Oswego, Kansas, and probably nobody’s ever even heard of that, but I was a CNA, and man, that just, it opened my eyes to what- here are the salt of the earth people who built this community, and half the time, their families didn’t come and see them. And they just wasted away. That is not how I want the end of my years to be. 

Neil Dudley: Well, I personally avoid it because I don’t want to think about it. I don’t want to have to hold myself accountable for allowing people to experience life that way, because I’m partially- I could help. I could go every day, meet them, make friends with them. Anyways, I think that’s a challenge for everybody listening. I would just encourage you to just go, just set some time. That’s a great volunteer thing you could do in life. If you have your health and happiness, why not go share it with some other people? Nursing home is a pretty good place to think about. Okay, so now we’ve got to talk about KetoCon a little bit. That’s what this month of episodes is all about. It’s how I’ve got you on here. You answered my call. Have you ever been to KetoCon before? 

Tiffany Davis: I have. I was there in 2019 with my daughter, and it was the first time. And then 2020 came, so we all didn’t get to go for two years. And now I actually coach with the Ketovangelist coaching, which is part of KetoCon. So, I will be there as one of their coaches, and I think KetoCon is an amazing event. And they really do have a lot of carnivore stuff going on this year, too. So, it’s a keto carnivore con in my mind. But yeah, it’s a great event. And in 2019, I spent more than I care to admit time at your booth because I was trying to stay away from all the keto treats. So, I think it was Josh that was there. 

Neil Dudley: You’ve got a great memory because it was absolutely Josh. 

Tiffany Davis: Well, he and I met because he came to the Sprouts that I was going to for a long time out in Phoenix. So, I had already met him a couple of times. But yeah, I frequented your booth many, many times. But I buy your products all the time, so I made up for it, all the free samples.

Neil Dudley: Well, as a company, I don’t even consider the free samples. It’s a small price to pay for the relationship and for the potential truth that you really enjoy the product and you become a fan and a customer, and you tell your friends about it. I mean, that’s why I’m so excited about KetoCon and really any community or group that we really service well or that makes a good fit for our products and our brand, the money is really not a consideration. If we’re doing a thing that’s valuable to the community, our business will stay healthy. We will be able to grow. But if we aren’t, then that’s a great place to learn that too. I mean, now we’re right next to the people who are plugged into all of this, and they can tell us, why are you doing that? Maria Emmerich’s a great example. We’ve got some tapioca starch in a couple of our products, and she is like why? Why do you do that? Nobody wants that. We’re like, well, I mean, I don’t know. I’ve got to find out, there you go. Thanks for highlighting one of our imperfections. That’s the other thing. This podcast has to be about- It’s not a Pederson’s commercial. It needs to be about a real conversation that has truth, failure, success, all those things, or I think we lose trust within the community. And at the end of the day, we’re not feeding anybody value. We’re just selling them a commercial. So, it is why I just really, really appreciate people like you coming on the show and giving us that authentic, real story.

Tiffany Davis: Well, and just circling back to the KetoCon thing, I will be on the main stage. I think it’s the last thing, the Success panel, it’s the Keto Success panel. The Carnivore panel was all filled up, but I don’t- I have no problem speaking on keto too because I think it’s just as wonderful as carnivore and it works for a lot of people, so I’m excited to be a part of that and put my gift of gab to use. So, I know it’s going to be an exciting time. I really hope a lot of people are able to come out there. My daughter will be with me again, and she’s keto carnivore herself as a 16-year-old. 

Neil Dudley: Is she doing that because she sees mom, or has she been battling some things that she’s trying to sort out?

Tiffany Davis: She definitely- well, it started because she wanted to come with me in 2019. I said, well, if you want to go, you got to at least give keto a try, give it a shot. And so, she did, and she started feeling better, and she works out with me. So, I think it’s because I’ve been a good example. But I don’t force it on her. This is her choice. I will buy her whatever she wants to eat. I’m not going to buy junk food. We have just a couple of ultimate nos in our house. We don’t bring any gluten in the house, we don’t bring any sugar in the house and we don’t bring any processed foods in the house. But she has oranges. If she wants an orange, I have no problem with that. Most of the time she eats red meat or pork or chicken, and then she has some veggies on occasion. It works for her. She’s got metabolic flexibility. I don’t think there’s any need for her to not do that. And she really learned a lot from other people at KetoCon in ’19. So she really enjoyed getting to meet people that we had followed on Instagram and get to try different products. So, I think it’s great to do it as a family too, because your kids, they might not hear it from you, but they’ll listen to somebody else and see what their experience is, and that might resonate with them in a different way. And there are a lot of young people in this community too, so that’s really great to see that. 

Neil Dudley: Absolutely, absolutely. By the way, everybody, use the code bacon, thanks to Robin and the team over at KetoCon, they hooked us up with a little code. If you use bacon, you get to get 50% off your three-day ticket- not 50%, but 50 bucks. Now watch this, somebody is going to be mad now because they didn’t get 50%. I misspoke. It is $50 off your three-

Tiffany Davis: Which is still a great deal.

Neil Dudley: That’s still a big percentage, but it’s not 50%. Have you done a lot of speaking? I mean, so you’re talking about being on a carnivore panel, being on a keto panel, being on a success panel. Have you found that you speak a lot, you get opportunities to do that? And then I want to talk about Ketovangelist a little bit. 

Tiffany Davis: Okay. Just recently, I’ve been asked more to be on podcasts than before. I don’t have a problem with it. I enjoy it because I talk a lot anyway, so I might as well put it to some good use. But no, I’ve not done a ton of public speaking. I’ve never been on a panel per se like that. I did a lot of theater before.  

Neil Dudley: Okay. So, you’re not too nervous about it? 

Tiffany Davis: No, I always get a little nervous. I think that’s just natural. And if you’re not nervous, something is going on.

Neil Dudley: I mean, I’m a little nervous about this because people are spending their time here. If they’ve listened this far, they’ve allocated a very valuable asset to this show, and I want it to be good. And it is good.

Tiffany Davis: I take that very seriously. I hope that what I share resonates or they get something from it, and they feel like they can reach out to me if they need help with something. So yeah, I don’t want to waste anybody’s time. I hope I’m interesting. 

Neil Dudley: You are. Well, I mean, you inevitably have to be because you’ve got a real story, you’re just telling your truth. And you might not be interesting to every single listener and those people have already changed the channel and went somewhere else. But the people that you are interesting to are still listening. And that is what I love about podcasts. And it could be one, like to me, one person is enough. It’s well worth my time and the effort you and I are actually putting in here for that one person to maybe have another, oh, cool, that’s somebody I really relate to. I thought you couldn’t get, I forget what you even call it, stomach surgery, but oh, you can, and I already have that maybe, and I’ve been unsuccessful. Anyways, it just, I think, plays so well to have these conversations. Tell me about the- I got this idea that Ketovangelist is Robin and Ryan, but maybe it isn’t. Tell everybody a little bit who may not be familiar with that.

Tiffany Davis: So, the ketogenic coaching, yeah, that is connected to Robin. It’s not directly KetoCon, but they’re all under the same company as far as I understand. Don’t take my word for it because I’m new. I was coaching before them, but then I joined thanks to my friend Mary, keto coach Mary. So, there’s just a great plethora of amazing coaches on that website. They offer all kinds of different programs for food addiction, mindset, carnivore. Maybe you just want to learn how to reverse your type two diabetes. I mean, there is something for everyone. You have a hundred pounds to lose, there’s a group for that. And there are some that are- you can do one-on-one coaching. I offer email coaching. So, there’s some people that have got wonky schedules. They want to talk to me whenever they want to, but they can’t necessarily get on the phone or do a Zoom call with me, so they do email coaching. I’ve got groups. I’ve got a mindset group in June, and I have a carnivore group that I do every month. So, that’s a way that you can get good peer influence. That’s the way I like to look at that. So, you’re going to get education. You’re going to get support. You’re going to have accountability. And there are a lot of different groups for that. Mary, for instance, her specialty is food addiction. And if you think that you have even the slightest possibility of that, I’ve been through her group, it’s amazing. She is just unbelievably knowledgeable, and I love that she will give you the truth with grace. She does not mince her words, but she will- she does it in the best way possible. So, I respond to that a lot. And Jessica also has a different food addition group too, and hers is a little different than Mary’s. But they used to do it together and now they each have their own and they have a very special way that they address food addiction. It’s amazing. So, yeah, and most of the coaches will be at KetoCon. I don’t think all of them are going to be there, but I think most of them. I will be there. I’ll be at the booth some of the time, and I’ll be walking around the whole time, open to close. 

Neil Dudley: Great. If you’re listening, you’ve got any curiosity about KetoCon, I think Tiffany and I both highly encourage you to come check it out. I mean, if you don’t live in Austin- like you’ve got zero excuse to not come if you live in Austin, like I don’t give you any kind of pass. But if you’ve got to drive or fly, I still encourage you. Yes, it’s going to cost you money. It’s an investment in your health, in your network. Look, everybody, and if you’ve listened to the Pederson’s Podcast or if you’ve ever listened to the Cowboy Perspective podcast, which is another one I do that’s more just around mindset or what I’m so appreciative about being a cowboy and having those kinds of people raise me, but it is your network. Like the people you know, the friends you have, the acquaintances, that all builds this huge amount of value for you. So come for nothing more than the network. I mean, let’s say it’s a thousand dollars to come plus a ticket. Maybe it’s ultimately $2,000 to travel in, get a flight, hotel, tickets to the event, meals, all those different things, that’s a pretty cheap price for adding to your network and learning something about your heath.

Tiffany Davis: Yes, and Austin has amazing barbecue. So, there’s that too. I mean, in a 5-mile radius of the Palmer Center, there is at least four top-notch Texas barbecue. And as far as I’m concerned, that’s the only kind of barbecue to eat. So, I mean, nine years in Texas, I learned that is the only barbecue.

Neil Dudley: Yes, I agree. See now, Texans are kind of- you can’t make us not be very proud of our state and the foods and the things. It’s almost obnoxious and I think we bother most other people, like these dang Texans, they just think Texas is so super special. Well, it is, folks, come on. 

Tiffany Davis: It is. I miss it to this day. And I’m from Arizona originally, but we lived in Texas for nine years and I loved it. Three years in Austin and six years in Dallas Fort Worth area. And yeah, Austin is an amazing city. I think coming for the conference is enough, but the city is really cool. And Texas itself is a fun place to visit. And man, you’ll get something totally different in Austin than you would in Dallas. So, it’s like being in two different worlds, especially- or Fort Worth for that matter. 

Neil Dudley: For my preference, Fort Worth is the place to be. It’s just more kind of country, cowboy. Austin’s almost Silicon Valley at this point. Dallas is really more, I don’t know, this is an unfair way to explain it, hoity toity is the word I want to use, but it’s not really fair to-

Tiffany Davis: And that was my experience. We just loved Fort Worth and the Weatherford area. And we’ve talked about going back from time to time, but all our family is out here, so it’s hard to leave kids behind. 

Neil Dudley: Sure. Well, it was, I mean, just amazing. Thank you so much for the last minute just call to action and being a great friend. I’m so glad to add you to my network and your community, I just want to say hi to all of them and all the listeners to the podcast. By the way, why don’t you tell us where somebody listening that’s like, man, I really liked this Tiffany gal, where would I go find more out about you? 

Tiffany Davis: The best way to find me is on Instagram. I’m Tiffany.R.D and no, I’m not a registered dietician, those are just my unfortunate initials, and I didn’t think about it when I created the account name, but that’s the best place to find me. Tiffany.R.D on Instagram. I am on Facebook for the same name too. So you can find me there, but don’t message me there because I never read the messages. I’m terrible about that. But I always respond on Instagram.

Neil Dudley: Awesome. Everybody, check her out on Instagram. And Tiffany, we’ll see you in Austin sometime in July, early part of July. I look forward to the high five and hug.

Tiffany Davis: I do too. We’ll see you there.

Neil Dudley: Hey, everybody. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Pederson’s Farms Podcast. It’s been a blast bringing this to you, and I sure hope you enjoyed it and found value. If you did, tell a friend, share it out on social media, hit that subscribe button, or go check us out at pedersonsfarms.com. We sure hope you do. And thanks for being here.